Ep. 155 | Doug Jones, Cinco Paul & Ken Daurio

Ep. 155 | Doug Jones, Cinco Paul & Ken Daurio

Actor Doug Jones (Falling Skies, Hellboy 1 & 2, Pan's Labyrinth...) & Screenwriters Cinco Paul and Ken Dourio (Despicable Me 1 & 2, The Lorax, Horton Hears a Who!...) join us on The Matthew Aaron Show Wednesday (6/26) as we broadcast LIVE from Taste Chicago in Burbank starting at 4pm PT.

Doug will be with us to discuss his diverse career which often involves countless hours in the makeup chair in order to bring to life some truly incredible characters, such as Abe Sapien in HELLBOY & HELLBOY II, Fauno/Pale Man in PAN'S LABYRINTH and The Silver Surfer in FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER. Doug will also fill us in on his current role as the Alien "Cochise" on the 3rd season of FALLING SKIES which is currently airing Sunday nights on TNT.

Cinco & Ken join us to discuss their professional partnership and career writing some of the most successful animated films of all time including THE LORAX, DESPICABLE ME and the upcoming DESPICABLE ME 2 which hits theaters on July 3rd.

Show starts at 4pm PT (6pm CT / 7pm ET). Stop on by Taste Chicago and experience the show in person, otherwise you can subscribe for free and download the show on APPLE PODCASTS. You can also listen on the go on your Android/iPhone/iPad device via SPOTIFY.


DOUG JONES was born on the 24th May, 1960, in Indianapolis, Indiana, and grew up in the city's Northeastside. After attending Bishop Chatard High School, he headed off to Ball State University, where he graduated in 1982 with a Bachelor's degree in Telecommunications and a minor in Theatre.

He learned mime at school, joining a troupe called "Mime Over Matter" and doing the whole white-faced thing. “I was a mime for one summer at Kings Island theme park in Cincinnati, Ohio after graduating Ball State. Scaring children from Kentucky is basically what you do down there,” he said with a laugh.

Doug has also worked as a contortionist. “You’d be surprised how many times that comes into play in commercials. They’ll want somebody to hold a box of Tide funny or something. I once squished into a box for a commercial for relaxed fit jeans.” He is nearing 100 TV commercials now, including the McDonald's character he made famous around the world, Mac Tonight.

After a hitch in theatre in Indiana, he moved to Los Angeles in 1985, and has not been out of work since - he's acted in over 25 films, many television series (Including the award-winning Buffy The Vampire Slayer, his episode 'Hush' garnering two Emmy nominations) over 90 commercials and music videos with the likes of Madonna, The Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Marilyn Manson.

Although known mostly for his iconic work under prosthetics, such as the floppy zombie 'Billy' in the Halloween classic Hocus Pocus, or the lead Spy Morlock in the 2001 remake The Time Machine, he has also performed as 'himself' in such highly-rated films as Adaptation with Nicholas Cage, Mystery Men with Ben Stiller, Batman Returns with Danny DeVito, and indie projects such as Stefan Haves' Stalled, Phil Donlon's A Series of Small Things, and as 'Cesare' in David Fisher's daring 2005 remake of the 1919 silent classic The Cabinet Of Dr. Caligari.

But it is his sensitive and elegant performance as 'Abe Sapien' in Hellboy, which stormed to the top of the U.S. box office in the spring of 2004, that brought him an even higher profile and much praise from both audiences and critics.

In 2005 he renewed his association with Mexican director Guillermo del Toro when he starred in the title role of 'Pan' in del Toro's Spanish language fantasy/horror project El Laberinto del Fauno (Pan's Labyrinth). He also has a cameo in the film as 'The Pale Man', a gruesome creature with a penchant for eating children. Working once more under heavy prosthetics in both roles, he also was required to learn huge chunks of dialogue in archaic Spanish - which he did perfectly.

2005 continued to be a hectic year for Doug, with roles in Doom, The Benchwarmers and Lady in the Water, the latter being the brainchild of award-winning cult director/writer M. Night Shyamalan. The year also brought success for The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, the film reaping three awards at the Screamfest Horror Festival in Los Angeles, including the coveted Audience Choice Award.

He also stepped out from behind the prosthetics for several roles, most notably to guest-star as freaked-out drug addict 'Domino Thacker' in the episode 'Blood Hungry' of the hugely popular TV series Criminal Minds, his jittery, unnerving performance being lauded by cast, crew and audiences alike.

Doug continued his collaboration with Guillermo del Toro into 2006, as he reprised his role as 'Abe Sapien' by voicing the character in the new Hellboy Animated television project, recording two 70-minute animated films, Hellboy: Sword of Storms and Hellboy: Blood and Iron.

On December 18th, 2006, he finished filming his role as the 'Silver Surfer' in the film Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, which hit theaters in June 2007, Doug's haunting performance as the' Surfer' bringing universal praise from critics and cinema audiences. He also attended the Oscars for the first time as El Laberinto del Fauno garnered six nominations, winning three, including triumph for the makeup team behind the creation of Doug's characters, the Barcelona-based DDT Efectos Especiales led by David Marti and Montse Ribe. This was the crowning glory for a film that won countless major awards throughout the world and has since become acknowledged as a cinematic masterpiece.

On May 16th, 2007, Doug headed out to Budapest, Hungary, to reprise his role as 'Abe Sapien' in the sequel to Hellboy, Hellboy II: The Golden Army, which began filming on June 8th, 2007, and once more under the direction of Guillermo del Toro. Playing all of 'Abe' this time, voice and performance, Doug played two other roles, the 'Angel of Death' and 'The Chamberlain,' both under heavy prosthetics. The film hit Number One at the box office on its opening weekend in the U.S.A.

Doug has also been expanding his voice work resumé, including work on the indie short movie Rise, the independent film Man in the Silo and the animated film Quantum Quest - A Cassini Space Odyssey, as well as narrating the animated short The Dream and The Alphabet Sonnets by Calix Lewis Reneau.

2008 brought more screen work, including guest cameos in Super Capers, Legion and Quarantine, as well as a highly-acclaimed performance on the television series Fear Itself, starring in the episode Skin and Bones directed by cult horror director Larry Fessenden. Doug's chilling performance as possessed rancher 'Grady Edlund' won rave reviews from critics and audiences alike.

Doug's reputation for being able to cope with dialogue in a language he doesn't speak stood him in good stead when he joined the cast of Serge Gainsbourg: Vie Heroique, French writer Joann Sfar's first foray into directing. An affectionate and surreal tribute to the life and works of French singer-songwriter Serge Gainsbourg, Sfar cast Doug as Gainsbourg's strange alter-ego 'La Gueule,' a comic-book style character who is Gainsbourg's muse. Working once more with David Marti and Montse Ribe of DDT Efectos Especiales, the Oscar-winning FX shop from El Laberinto Del Fauno, Doug spent a happy four months during 2009 filming in Paris. The film has been enthusiastically received worldwide, with Doug's performance being universally praised.

But most satisfying of all is his starring role in the independent film My Name is Jerry, shot in his home state of Indiana with fellow Ball State University alumnus director Morgan Mead. In what he calls his 'dream role' written specially for him, he worked in the summer of 2008 in Muncie, Indiana with a unique crew combining industry professionals and film students from Ball State, giving many talented young film makers a chance to gain experience in a professional production. The film has won numerous awards and brought Doug a 'Best Actor' award at the 3rd Strasbourg International Film Festival in 2010. My Name is Jerry was released on DVD in 2010.

When he has spare time (an increasingly rare occurance these days!) he loves to rollerblade at Venice Beach, and is a pretty decent barber - he cuts his own hair and is known to happily give haircuts to cast and crew while on location - he says he finds it cathartic! He also loves to sing (He has a smooth and very versatile baritone voice), and is an active member of his church choir - singing gospel music at the top of his lungs is one of his favourite things, and he is a very popular solo singer. One of the items on his 'To Do' list is to record an album sometime in the future when he can put aside the time, along with his long-held ambition to write his first novel.

A deeply spiritual man, Doug is often asked to talk at youth festivals and universities, and indeed many of the independent films he makes have a spiritual leaning. His faith in God means a great deal to him, and he is an active member of Media Fellowship International, a Christian group working within the entertainment industry.

Doug and his wife Laurie also mentor young people who wish to work in the medium of film and are beginning their careers in the business. Not having children of their own, and remembering how hard it was for Doug when he started out, he and Laurie now provide a kind of surrogate parental support mechanism for many young folks struggling to make their way in a very tough industry. They are affectionately known as the 'Puppies,' and they are all very proud of their moniker!

Doug and Laurie live in California, but return home to visit Indiana whenever they can.

Paul & Daurio

CINCO PAUL & KEN DAURIO are used to seeing their work come to life with one smash hit after another. For Despicable Me 2 they reteamed to bring audiences their unique vision of the film’s characters. Paul & Daurio also wrote the surprise blockbuster Despicable Me, which has made more than $540 million worldwide.

Paul and his writing partner, Ken Daurio, are the hot Hollywood screenwriting team who also penned the highly successful screenplays based on the beloved Dr. Seuss children’s books “The Lorax” and “Horton Hears a Who!,” in collaboration with Chris Meledandri, the founder and CEO of Illumination Entertainment. Paul and Daurio had the distinct honor of being handpicked by Audrey Geisel (the widow of Theodor Seuss Geisel) to write the Horton Hears a Who! and Dr. Seuss’ The Lorax film projects on behalf of the estate of Dr. Seuss. Paul also wrote the lyrics for Dr. Seuss’ The Lorax, for which he, along with John Powell, received an Annie Award nomination in 2013.

Paul and Daurio are known throughout the entertainment industry for their unique pitching style, often singing their pitches to high-level studio executives. For the Disney film College Road Trip, they belted out the ’80s tune “Double Dutch Bus,” complete with harmony and melody. An estimated 90 percent of their pitches in the last nine years have involved musical performances.

Paul met Daurio while working on a church musical, and they bonded immediately. In 1999, they sold their first screenplay, Special; later, they turned it into a short film that went on to play the festival circuit due to its dark comedic story line. Next came the 2001 cult classic Bubble Boy, which starred Jake Gyllenhaal as Jimmy Livingston (a boy without an immune system), a twisted take on the John Travolta television movie The Boy in the Plastic Bubble. Paul also recently turned Bubble Boy into a full-length musical, for which he wrote the music and lyrics. His other film credits include Disney’s megahit The Santa Clause 2.

Paul studied at Yale University, where he graduated summa cum laude with a degree in English. Upon moving to Los Angeles, he received his MFA in screenwriting from the University of Southern California, winning a fellowship grant to pay for his second year.

Upon graduating from high school, Daurio began directing music videos for up-and-coming bands like Blink-182, AFI and Jimmy Eat World. More than 100 music videos later, he teamed up with Paul to write his first feature script.